Posted on Dec 28, 2011 | 19 comments
Mormons believe it is important to serve in the community and volunteer to help those in need.By: Rick
True. Mormons believe in serving their fellow man, but usually only in order to reel an inactive member back into the church, or in order to reel a non-Mormon into becoming a full tithe-paying member. Very rarely do they perform services without membership expected in return, there are almost always strings attached.
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Verle Yes, you are right. Those lost from the flock are very important to us. However I’ve never cared about their tithe paying. In fact I think that’s between them and the Lord. Regardless it’s not only me but the Lord who’s commanded us to serve and that would include my fellow lost or forgotten brothers and sisters.
On the other hand a few weeks ago strong winds hit Davis county in Utah. Much damage was done to peoples property due to trees falling, etc. That Sunday my parents in Davis county were called to a special church meeting in which the leaders told everyone to go home, put on their work cloths, and organize to clean up the neighborhoods. I don’t recall them bypassing non-members homes. Everyone was helped. Much good work was done on that Sabbath day for those in need.
Mormons believe in service, but they do not believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ… One God, not one God who was begot from a God and Goddess, and all believers of the mormon prophets can also be God. The teachings of Jesus are that if you believe in Jesus, you will have salvation. The teachings of the Doctrine of Mormons is you must also believe that Joseph Smith is your salvation. Tell me where Jesus said that… in the REAL Bible.
tell me where it says Joseph Smith is our salvation in the “fake bible.” The closest to that that was ever said, who actually had the authority to be speaking for the church was in D&C 135:3 “Joseph Smith, the aProphet and bSeer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it..” Which I don’t think is that unfounded if he did in fact bring Christ’s church back to the earth
Nowhere does it say he is higher than Christ and nowhere does it say that salvation is through him…it just so happens to be through means that he mad possible.
And to toot my Mormon horn a little where others may disagree, If he hadn’t of stepped up to the plate someone else would of…He was just a man.
It seems as though you have never read the book of mormon yourself. Because actually it doesnt say that we need to believe in Joseph Smith.
“The Standard of Truth has been erected; no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing; persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished, and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done.”
I think you must be so blinded by pain that you must not realize that the transaction you’ve described, service in exchange for membership has a zero chance of being successful. Some years ago my then-teenage son had the opportunity to go to the New Orleans area in the aftermath of Katrina with a group of men from our ward to help victims of the flooding (I had to stay home and work). By the time our group from Kentucky got there, the local LDS members were all taken care of so my son, with hundreds of others, took care of whoever else needed help. He tore out carpet and drywall in many homes of non-members. Many people were impressed with the service rendered by the Latter-day Saints, and I understand that there were many inquiries about the church by the people who were helped. To say that this was somehow a transaction designed to increase church membership is to wrongly denigrate good service rendered to people who really needed it. My son returned feeling great about himself, and the skills he acquired have helped him in the process of restoring a fixer-upper he and his wife bought recently. I think in viewing the process of rendering service, the observer will see what they want to see. You see manipulation, I see growth and meeting a need.
Nothing about mormons causes me pain… Everything about your cultism baffles me. I’m so glad that your son was taken care of physically. But what about spiritually? Do you think that your son will be the God of his own planet one day? Where exactly can one locate the planet Kobol? Where in the Bible do you find any indication that Mary (the one that we real Christians refer to as the Virgin Mary) is the wife of her own son, Jesus? Is the Bible wrong in referring to Mary as a virgin when your mormon doctrine says that God had intercourse with her to conceive Jesus?
What about this insanity, “God is married to his goddess wife and has spirit children.” (Mormon Doctrine, p. 516).Really? God is married? Why is there no mention of his ‘goddess wife or spirit children” in the REAL Bible? This sounds like service to me… LIP SERVICE!
As a Mormon I have had the opportunity to help in many service projects. More often than not our church is only mentioned when people ask. In the past month I served at two service projects: One was in Henryville, Indiana, cleaning up after the tornado that hit there in the beginning of March. I never heard anyone mention the name of our church. The other project was in the city that I live in, in Kentucky. We were serving in an joint effort with other churches, such as the Crossroads Christian Church. The group I was with was assigned to help at the Catholic Action Center. The group I was a part of consisted primarily of Mormons, but when people asked what organization we belonged to, we were sure to always mention all the churches involved, not just our own, and the only reason we said anything about the organization/denomination we belonged to was just to be nice and answer the questions people had.
As a mormon, do you realize how annoying it is when I am trying to enjoy my daily inspiration of reading my King James version of the Holy Bible when a couple of your bike-riding mormons ring my door bell to hand me a copy of the insanity that contradicts what my Savior, Jesus Christ, teachers in the New Testament? My Savior died on the cross for the sins of man, and your cult has the audacity to claim that there is no salvation outside the Church of the Latter Day Saints(Mormon Doctrine, p. 670). Jesus said that whosoever believes in me shall have everlasting life. He DID NOT say that whosoever believes in me and becomes a mormon by also believing a crock of incredible crap that was invented by a con-man named Joseph Smith shall have everlasting life. It seems that not one of you mormons can explain why a rainbow will keep Jesus from returning to the Earth… Maybe it’s because he’s afraid of Leprechauns. Go figure.
As a Mormon, I can promise you this isn’t true. In my mormon neighborhood, we have multiple opportunities to do service with absolutely NO strings attached. We have a group that goes down to the food bank every week and volunteers. We all keep a steady supply of food storage for any family in need. My family has made dinner for non mormon families plenty of times and I promise you we do not expect them to join the church. As a 16 year old, I make it a habit to give at least a dollar to EVERY homeless person I see. I don’t tell them ” hey I’m a Mormon,you should totally be one too!” while it is true that some Mormons might not being doing service for the right reasons, we are all taught and believe that everyone deserves compassion and helping others is also a way to better ourselves. The reason I do service? I love it. I love knowing I helped make a difference and that someones load is a little easier by doing simple things. I love doing yard work and babysitting and sorting out food cans and seeing the smile on someone’s face when I give them some change. I do not expect any service of mine to be repaid, because I hope whenever family needs a little help someone will be there for us too.
Geez… in your “mormon neighborhood?” Why would there be string attached to service opportunities in your mormon neighborhood. All the people are already part of your Kolob cult! Why would there need to be strings attached? I hope that one day, your 16 year old brain-washed mind realizes that you won’t be a God of your own planet and that it’s really okay to travel on water. Satan does not rule them…
Brooke, I don’t know you but I am very proud of you! I have a son around your age and I hope he finds someone with a heart like yours someday. Your parents should be commended for raising you to grow into the young woman that you appear to be.
Her parents should be quartered for making her believe that the only way she will get to heaven (her planet) is if she lives a righteous mormon life… oh, yeah, and if her husband gives the “okay.”
I am a non Mormon and I totally agree when I moved into my neighborhood the conversion race was on..my neighbors were so helpful and kind. All of this stopped when they realized that I had zero interest in their church. Since then I have had cancer and surgery…not one dinner, not one..can we help? It has turned me from indifferent into someone that truly dislikes the church with all it’s lies.
This is because you don’t drink the kool-aid, wear the underwear, or know the handshake…
So do 99% of aetheists – whose service is rendered free of ‘expectations’
(So, obviously it’s NOT for the ‘insurance’ of getting into a’heaven’, but as a generous action for its own sake – from one person to another…generosity is anonymous.)
The person who gives their life for another WITHOUT reward in heaven, or serves a neighbor, without the ‘merit badge’..or listens openly and accepts someone for who the ARE and not because they BELIEVE what you believe…that’s the truly generous,courageous and worthy person to me
I think this might be true for some Mormons, but certainly not any I know. My nephew married a Mormon and they had a special needs baby boy. The church basically abandoned them once it realized the baby wouldn’t go on to make other Mormons. The church members never offered to help watch the child or aid the family with donations of food, money, or home assistance, even when my nephew asked.
Definitely not a loving religion.
Basically, from what I understand, you’re expected to be self sufficient. You’re on your own! Sounds like Mr. Romney doesn’t it?
Yeah, your nephew’s baby won’t be getting his own planet or the status of God because he can’t meet the criteria: 1. Live a righteous mormon life (be a missionary and rake some yards now and then) 2. Have a mormon marriage (which used to be as many wives as he wanted- but he has to procreate even if it’s with just one. 3. Believe that he would not have any salvation if it weren’t for Joseph Smith and his magic spectacles that helped him read his golden tablets that vanished into thin air (the angels took them!) DENIED… Tell your nephew to count his blessings! They are vast and not full of lies.
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