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Give everything you have
When going through the temple, you make a covenant to give your time, talent, and everything you have or ever will have to the church.
By: trish
Posted on Dec 21, 2011 | 6 comments
When going through the temple, you make a covenant to give your time, talent, and everything you have or ever will have to the church.
By: trish
Paid for by Fred Karger for President
And that was the code-button Mormon apostles pushed when calling their members to activate for Prop. 8 in California.
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LikeDislikeAmen! Some of us were even additionally manipulated and forced to participant. That’s what started my dissent. I was always taught that if you can’t do it in public then it’s wrong and here I was in a secret meeting being told to hide what I was doing and sneak around so no one would think we were acting politically.
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LikeDislikeYes, imagine the irony. Martyrs for the word, like when the Christians were burned at the stake and fed to lions in the Roman colliseum when they would not renounce their fate, gave their very lives — and most people throughout history have praised this measure of devotion.
And yet it is counted “too much” to give of one’s labor and worldly goods to promote the goals of the church you believe in? Oh please, give me a break.
If you don’t truly believe in the Church, then just leave, Katya! Nobody counts it as a good thing to support what you don’t believe in. Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out! Just don’t belittle those who have to courage to act according to their genuinely-held consciences.
As the Church’s 11th Article of Faith says: “We claim the aprivilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own cconscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.” If your conscience requires you to oppose things like Proposition 8, then we understand (and even defend your right to do so), but by the same token we claim the right of dissent.
Seems fair enough. One day you may have the votes to make marriage into a mockery by saying two men may marry each other. Go for it. We’ll oppose you (we won’t be the only ones, by far), but if in the end you succeed, we won’t burn gay bars, fire our gay employees, and beat up gay people for their sexual orientation. But we’ll still be against gay marriage. Get over it.
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LikeDislikeMike, I think you’re being a little sensitive. When a church organization chooses to actively work to deny legal rights to a group it disapproves of, it is now longer in the religious realm. Mormons are free to oppose same-sex marriage, like they dislike black people, without denying anyone equal legal rights. In fact, it is perfectly possible and acceptable to support equal legal rights, while not participating in an act oneself, and freely opposing others practicing it. At least if you’re a genuine American it’s possible.
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LikeDislikeI would like to know what mechanism was used to manipulate or force you to do anything, Katya. I’ve been a Mormon all my life and I have never been forced to do anything. Every thing in the church is voluntary. Did they take a gun to your head? Did they keep you locked in a room, take away your cel phone and force you to do what? I’m very curious how they MADE you do anything.
Those of you who persecute the church simply just don’t want to serve god and you try to come up with any excuse that is possible to give. Come off with your bs and just say I’m not interested in serving Jesus Christ.
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